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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.0&return_msg=40728.24"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.41">41–43</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=40728.24">Windows 8.1 is out...</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="40728_24_43_10"> <a name="a40728_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 09:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.24">40728.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.21">40728.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> They have a rendering engine Mental Ray (which also renders 3DSM & Softimage) as a separate product. Plus many studios have their own, custom engines.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.24&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 09:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 11:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.25">40728.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.23">40728.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Apple has proven with Aperture and Final Cut that adobe does not have a lock on the market -- all the more reason for adobe to move out of the walled garden.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.25&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 11:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.26">40728.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.21">40728.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You put up with GIMP but complain that Inkscape's UI is bad? wtf man <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span></span><br /><br /> (I have limited needs to Acorn is fine for me on the Mac, and I ... don't mind the Inkscape UI at all, although I've never used Illustrator so I guess I don't know what I'm missing out on)<br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.26&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 11:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">27 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.27">40728.27</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.24#a40728_25" target="_self">40728.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Final Cut seems to have taken a bit of a beating lately, professionally speaking at least. While becoming more accessible to the home user. I've used it a bit a few years ago but didn't really get on with the interface. Motion and Livetype were kinda fun timesavers.<br /><br /> Regardless, it don't much matter - everyone I work with uses Illustrator/Photoshop/After Effects and assorted related plugins. It's bad enough when Adobe updates a version, never mind trying to mix up semi-compatible alternatives.<br /><br /> At least my Office needs are generic enough that I don't need a 'proper' version of that.<br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.27&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 11:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">28 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.28">40728.28</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.10">40728.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Oh and<br /><div class="quotetext"> <b>Quote:</b></div> <div class="quote"> Btrfs (B-tree file system, variously pronounced "Butter F S", "Butterfuss", "Better F S", "B-tree F S", "Butter Face", or simply "Bee Tee Arr Eff Ess")"</div> ...ah man, Linux <span class="emoticon e_bigtear" title=":')"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_bigtear" title=":')"><span class="e__">:')</span></span></span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.28&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_29"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_29"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 11:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 12:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">29 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.29">40728.29</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.24#a40728_28" target="_self">40728.28</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Clearly got to be Butter Face.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.29&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.29"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_30"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_30"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: PNCOOL<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 15:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 18:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">30 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.30">40728.30</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.15">40728.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've still not got my head around a potential Windows 8 roll-out here in this School. I can't get the tile start menu doing exactly what I want for user profiles.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.30&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.30"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_31"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_31"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 17:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">31 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.31">40728.31</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.24#a40728_26" target="_self">40728.26</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Gimp's not that bad any more. Certainly no worse than Photoshop, which was always pretty dreadful. Illustrator has a decent interface though, whereas Inkscape is just... yeah, bad.<br /><br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.31&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.31"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_32"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_32"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 17:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 19:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">32 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.32">40728.32</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.24#a40728_29" target="_self">40728.29</a></div> <div class="message_body"> w3rd.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.32&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.32"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_33"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_33"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 17:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2013 06:59"></span></span> <span class="message_count">33 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.33">40728.33</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.24#a40728_31" target="_self">40728.31</a></div> <div class="message_body"> GImp, though much improved, is certainly still much worse than Photoshop*. My biggest complaint about PS is that all the stupid do-dads they've bolted on since about version 6 should be offered as optional plug-ins. And the drm and now cloud bullshit.<br /><br /> But the interface is actually about as good as it gets for such a complex and powerful set of tools. There's loads of people (mainly professional photographers) who only need to perform a few rote enhancements to their boring pictures of weddings, corporate smurfs and hamburgers. So for them the GUI and learning curve could be significant drawbacks. But hey, that's what instagram is for.<br /><br /><br /> * full disclosure: I love using gimp.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.33&return_msg=40728.24" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.33"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="40728.34" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>