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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.0&return_msg=40728.19"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.21">21–30</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.41">41–43</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=40728.19">Windows 8.1 is out...</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="40728_19_43_10"> <a name="a40728_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">20 Oct 2013 20:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 06:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19">40728.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.17">40728.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Make them make After Effects/Illustrator/Photoshop linux Xen, pleeeeeeease. I could ditch Windows and OSX then.<br /><br /> I forgot to post here but I have recently made OSX surprise even me, a grumpy Mac user, with how <em>fucking stupid</em> it can be.<br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.19&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 00:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 06:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.20">40728.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_19" target="_self">40728.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've always wondered why Adobe doesn't release on linux (after all, Autodesk did with Maya). Maybe one day they will.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.20&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 06:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 06:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.21">40728.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_19" target="_self">40728.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hah, they're moving towards being web services too, aren't they?<br /><br /> (I actually literally use Gimp these days <span class="emoticon e_plain" title=":|"><span class="e__">:|</span></span> I can't bring myself to use Inkscape though so I run Illustrator through Wine. (Inkscape is powerful and all that, but the UI is fucking dreadful))<br /><br /> (It's <em>extremely </em>weak for video editing stuff though, aye. There's some stuff in the works but nothing good enough to replace AE or Premier yet)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.21&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 06:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 09:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.22">40728.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_20" target="_self">40728.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Because 2% of desktop market share -_-<br /><br /> Maya makes more sense because big studios obviously want to use Linux for their render farms so moving the whole chain to Linux is less of a step (and has more obvious benefits).<br /><br /> SteamOS (and the shitness of Win8/direction of MS) might eventually bump that 2% up to something respectable though.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.22&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 06:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.23">40728.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_21" target="_self">40728.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I can't really even use alternatives anyway, they'd have to be absolutely 100% compatible and whatnot <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.23&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 09:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.24">40728.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_21" target="_self">40728.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> They have a rendering engine Mental Ray (which also renders 3DSM & Softimage) as a separate product. Plus many studios have their own, custom engines.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.24&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 09:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 11:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.25">40728.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_23" target="_self">40728.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Apple has proven with Aperture and Final Cut that adobe does not have a lock on the market -- all the more reason for adobe to move out of the walled garden.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.25&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 11:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.26">40728.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_21" target="_self">40728.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You put up with GIMP but complain that Inkscape's UI is bad? wtf man <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span></span><br /><br /> (I have limited needs to Acorn is fine for me on the Mac, and I ... don't mind the Inkscape UI at all, although I've never used Illustrator so I guess I don't know what I'm missing out on)<br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.26&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 11:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">27 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.27">40728.27</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.19#a40728_25" target="_self">40728.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Final Cut seems to have taken a bit of a beating lately, professionally speaking at least. While becoming more accessible to the home user. I've used it a bit a few years ago but didn't really get on with the interface. Motion and Livetype were kinda fun timesavers.<br /><br /> Regardless, it don't much matter - everyone I work with uses Illustrator/Photoshop/After Effects and assorted related plugins. It's bad enough when Adobe updates a version, never mind trying to mix up semi-compatible alternatives.<br /><br /> At least my Office needs are generic enough that I don't need a 'proper' version of that.<br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.27&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40728_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_40728_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time">21 Oct 2013 11:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Oct 2013 17:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">28 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.28">40728.28</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40728.10">40728.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Oh and<br /><div class="quotetext"> <b>Quote:</b></div> <div class="quote"> Btrfs (B-tree file system, variously pronounced "Butter F S", "Butterfuss", "Better F S", "B-tree F S", "Butter Face", or simply "Bee Tee Arr Eff Ess")"</div> ...ah man, Linux <span class="emoticon e_bigtear" title=":')"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_bigtear" title=":')"><span class="e__">:')</span></span></span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40728.28&return_msg=40728.19" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40728.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="40728.29" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>