If the General Election were tomorrow... - Teh Forum

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People understand compromise. What I don't understand is, as I said above, turning my vote into its opposite.<br /><br /> There were numbers to make a 'left wing' (as far as that still means anything) coalition. More people (about 60% to 40%) who voted voted for a left wing party (Labour, LibDems, Green etc.). But they allied with the Tories.<br /><br /><div class="quotetext"> <b>Quote:</b></div> <div class="quote"> for not doing exactly everything that they said they would do</div> <p> <br /> I think it's more that they didn't do <em>anything at all</em>.<br /><br /> They, unnecessarily, sided with the (from the point of view of a leftie voter) most evil party with the intention of making them slightly less evil. Rather than siding with a good party and getting some good done.<br /><br /> And then they singularly failed to make them less evil. Because the Tories are <em>very fucking good</em> at politicking. They know how to play the media and make sure that the LibDems lose even the small amount of influence they should've had.<br /><br /> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.17&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2013 23:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 06:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.18">40697.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.1">40697.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I voted for Lib Dems, but I'm not totally sure of that. I want Lib Dems without Clegg and with a promise of never getting into bed with the Tories again.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.18&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">24 Sep 2013 23:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 09:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.19">40697.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.17#a40697_18" target="_self">40697.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You'd believe that promise? <span class="emoticon e_cheering" title="(cheer)"><span class="e__">(cheer)</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.19&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER)<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2013 09:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 22:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.20">40697.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.17#a40697_19" target="_self">40697.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There would have to be tears of regret or something.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.20&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: sinkywinky<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2013 11:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 12:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.21">40697.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.1">40697.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Looks like a choice between tory vermin (this includes Labour) or other parties that have no hope of doing anything. And the lib dems <span class="emoticon e_giggle" title="(giggle)"><span class="e__">(giggle)</span></span><br /><br /> I don't think spoiling my ballot will be enough. I might need to shit in the ballot box.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.21&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2013 12:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">22 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.22">40697.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> As the only real choice is between Tories or Labour (+/- coalition) I'm certainly glad Ed has started to make some noises on policy. Taken his fucking time about it and completely undermined his supporters, but then what else do you expect from politicians. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.22&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Jo (JELLS)<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2013 18:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 18:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.23">40697.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.1">40697.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm in Canada, so can't vote, but I follow UK politics very closely (for work and just personal interest), and I would definitely vote Lib Dem. The other two parties are too high up on the authoritarian scale for me - I'm old skool small-"l" liberal, quite centrist, so the Lib Dems are the only real option for me. I really admire Clegg and what he's done going into coalition with the Tories - it's always so much harder on the smaller party. And I totally LOVE the idea of coalition government - Canadian political parties are too immature to even consider the idea.<br /><br /> Although in fairness, I have to say that I don't dislike David Cameron. Not the Tories as a whole - too many nutters - but Cameron I actually kind of like. I'd rather have him as PM any day over the Conservative turd we currently have in power here in Canada. Want to trade?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.23&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2013 19:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Jo (JELLS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 19:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.24">40697.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.17#a40697_23" target="_self">40697.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> >><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">I'm in Canada,<br /><br /> >></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"> I really admire Clegg and what he's done going into coalition with the Tories <br /><br /> Your second statement totally renders the first redundant.</span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.24&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2013 19:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Jo (JELLS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 20:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.25">40697.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.17#a40697_23" target="_self">40697.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> >><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">but Cameron I actually kind of like.<br /><br /> What is it exactly you like about Cameron? Personality or policies? Because personally I find him lacking in both.</span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.25&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40697_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_40697_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">25 Sep 2013 20:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 25 Sep 2013 20:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.26">40697.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40697.2">40697.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I agree. Hate the Tories, can't vote for Lib Dems again after they jumped into bed with the Tories, went against their own manifesto and refused to apologise for it. Even though I'm not an Ed Milliband fan, he's simply the best of a bad bunch.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40697.26&return_msg=40697.17" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40697.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="40697.27" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>