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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.0&return_msg=40688.14"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.21">21–28</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=40688.14">Website stuff</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="40688_14_28_10"> <a name="a40688_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2013 18:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Chris (CHRISSS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2013 18:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14">40688.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.1">40688.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Oh and make it mobile-friendly. With a site that simple it shouldn't be hard. I can advise there if you need help.<br /><br /> edit: some kind of colour management issue means the background colour on the logo image doesn't match that of the element it's in (Chrome 29, Windows 7).<br /><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 17 Sep 2013 18:05 by CAER</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.14&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2013 19:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2013 20:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.15">40688.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.13">40688.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks for all that. The text was taken straight from her current website. In my opinion, and it's a bit awkward recommending some of the changes, or giving advice, it's too rambly with too much text. Needs simplifying, not so many pictures, not 5 pictures of one cake.<br /> <br /> I think, rather than remake the website in proper HTML, I'll help her design a better site on Moonfruit, at least for now. The V6 editor, HTML 5 instead of Flash has some mobile site stuff so that'll help too. Currently anything without Flash gets a page that that looks nothing like the site. Black and white with the text and images randomly amongst it. The Facebook link was probably copied from the old site and not turned into a link yet.<br /> <br /> I was quite excited about getting a website that I designed up and running but that's not gonna happen yet I think.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 17 Sep 2013 19:31 by CHRISSS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.15&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2013 20:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2013 21:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.16">40688.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.13">40688.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> "Try to really limit the marketing-speak to stuff that's actually useful"<br /><br /> While that may well reflect how you and I view marketing (stupid frippery that just gets in the way), it may affect other people very differently. People don't actually need cakes, and it's not like they're rare or anything. There's plenty of competition, ranging from other bakers to cake mixes and cakes at the supermarket. If you're going to sell them, you probably have to /sell/ them. If marketing was completely ineffectual on everybody, it wouldn't exist. So yeah, people of the cake-buying tribe actually do care about fluff.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.16&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2013 20:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2013 23:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.17">40688.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14#a40688_16" target="_self">40688.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Personally I prefer the text I wrote at <a href="http://hhhjjj.moonfruit.com">http://hhhjjj.moonfruit.com</a> I was having a play with their new editor. Who needs marketing speak?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.17&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2013 21:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2013 23:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.18">40688.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14#a40688_16" target="_self">40688.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There's a difference between meaningless fluff nonsense, and actual marketing. I'm not saying to be completely literal and stick only to facts, but the text has to contain <em>some</em> useful information.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.18&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">18 Sep 2013 11:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Chris (CHRISSS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Sep 2013 11:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.19">40688.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14#a40688_17" target="_self">40688.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I thought it was going to turn into a Buba-Shrimp story. I left a little disappointed but overall I approve of your approach! </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.19&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time">18 Sep 2013 12:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Sep 2013 12:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.20">40688.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14#a40688_19" target="_self">40688.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span></span> Unfortunately I don't think she will go with that sort of approach <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span><br /> <br /> Been playing with some designs on Moonfruit. My favourite so far is <a href="http://pigglypoo.moonfruit.com">http://pigglypoo.moonfruit.com</a> which I think looks rather nice. Needs work and the pictures in the middle don't look quite right.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 18 Sep 2013 12:11 by CHRISSS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.20&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">18 Sep 2013 12:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Chris (CHRISSS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Sep 2013 12:15"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.21">40688.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14#a40688_20" target="_self">40688.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah I think that is pleasing to the eye. What is moonfruit, a Wordpress like site?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.21&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time">18 Sep 2013 12:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Sep 2013 12:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.22">40688.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14#a40688_21" target="_self">40688.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've heard Wordpress lots of times but don't actually knoelw what it is. Moonfruit uses a Flash WYSIWYG editor and has some templates you can use and edit. It's a bugger to use though, too fiddly but can produce some nice results. Took me about half an hour to make that from a blank site.<br /> <br /> The websites is used to create were all Flash based too but now they have a HTML5 version (still with Flash editor) so it'll work on all platforms.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.22&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40688_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_40688_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">18 Sep 2013 12:31</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Chris (CHRISSS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Sep 2013 12:37"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 28</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.23">40688.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40688.14#a40688_22" target="_self">40688.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Wordress is probably similar except you pick a template and then the content is added by a WYSIWYG editor.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40688.23&return_msg=40688.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40688.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="40688.24" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>