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The Cost of Bandwidth
From: ANT_THOMAS
30 Jul 2013 23:48
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I might not be remembering right, and things were probably different back then due to lower data usage, but did operators charge extra to use 3G when it first came into service? I don't remember them doing so. Haven't checked lately but I think EE charged a premium, certainly over Orange and T-Mobile.
I have read that when Three start 4G service on 800MHz they won't be charging any extra. Basically if you have a phone that supports it you'll get 4G speeds when it's turned on.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
30 Jul 2013 23:53
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
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The time will
never come
whilst so many people receive their education from Murdoch and friends.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
30 Jul 2013 23:59
To: ANT_THOMAS
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You had to be on the right price plan (i.e. a data plan, or with a data add-on, which cost more), and also most places were still charging per-MB for data, until "unlimited (not really)" started taking off.
Any idea how long until Three gets 4G?
From: ANT_THOMAS
31 Jul 2013 00:07
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
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Everything is pointing to the end of the year, but no firm date. They've also reduced their 12 month Sim-Only "One Plan" to £15/month. That includes Unlimited data which can be tethered. So when 4G comes along that looks like a very good price.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
31 Jul 2013 00:19
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
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Aye
:((
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
31 Jul 2013 00:27
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
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I wish that were true. They flushed
all
almost all of the unlimited data plans on mobile over here. There are the fringe companies like T-Mobile and Sprint still offering it, but it's all a ruse anyway. After you hit a certain limit they begin to throttle you, how the fuck is that unlimited?
I had to purchase a business class internet here at home to get an uncapped monthly plan! Good thing I actually had a business at one point! I get ~25/10 pretty consistently. I've attached a screenshot from my phone. Some days I can get around ~50/25 on it!
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From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
31 Jul 2013 00:30
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
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That may be true "over there" but here 3G is truly useless. I think they've either done it on purpose or are using most of the spectrum for something else.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)
31 Jul 2013 22:06
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
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Who pays for stuff like DNS servers and whatever other stuff is required to keep stuff going? Also I assume over time equipment will need upgrading to meet the demands of increased traffic/connections/PRON!
Mobile networks (maybe not so much now networks seem to be offering unlimited/thousands of texts) charge for sending text messages which I believe don't add any extra overhead to the network, unlike calls/data.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
1 Aug 2013 01:10
To: Chris (CHRISSS)
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I don't think DNS is a good example. The two companies that are best at it provide the service for free.
There's no doubt that there are maintenance costs but the only time I /think/ they would be large is when moving to a new technology.
I heard yesterday that Time Warner Cable is going to raise their modem rental rates from 3.49 to 5.99 and they would make an extra hundred million or so. That's complete bullshit.
From: ANT_THOMAS
1 Aug 2013 07:38
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
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You rent your equipment?
Most ISPs over here send you a free router and don't even want it back when you leave. There was only Be who wanted theirs back when I left. They seem to be generally viewed as disposable.