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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.0&return_msg=39145.66"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.41">41–50</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.51">51–60</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.61">61–70</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.71">71–75</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=39145.66">GIMP</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="39145_66_75_10"> <a name="a39145_66"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_66"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 22:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 22:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">66 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.66">39145.66</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.63">39145.63</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That one guy that works on GIMP.<br /> <br /> He could take the 2.6 source, work on his own machine and/or with collaborators, without any of them telling anyone what they're doing, without any of them releasing any source to the outside world. When Martin's happy he can release 2.8 version.<br /> <br /> It would still be open source.<br /> <br /> There is no requirement for him to release incremental versions.<br /> <br /> If he only made available the source at each major release, I could not go and get a snapshot of the source now and build it, but he would still be working within the open source model.<br /> <br /> <br /> The other side of the coin: Microsoft could suddenly decide to start doing nightly IE10 preview releases.<br /> <br /> They don't need to release the source to make it possible for anyone to go get the latest snapshop and installing it right now.<br /> <br /> And the odds of Microsoft ever releasing IE as open source is slim.<br /> <br /> <br /> So going back to this:<br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b>you</div><div class="quote">You can install it currently if you like because it's open source.</div><br /> The reason I can install it currently is <em><strong>NOT</strong></em> because it is open source.<br /> <br /> It's because the developers have chosen to make it possible for others to get the latest version of the software.<br /> <br /> Doing this <em>makes sense</em> for open source but is not required by open source, and nor is being open source a pre-requisite for doing it.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.66&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.66"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_67"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_67"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 22:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 22:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">67 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.67">39145.67</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.63">39145.63</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote"><br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">Open Source ultimately means that binary releases must be accompanied by relevant source (and ability to build).</div><br /> <br /> No, it really doesn't. It means what the OSD says it means. Which can't be boiled down to a sentence as it's pared down about as far as it can be in the OSD itself.</div><br /> <br /> Shut up, it's a good enough summary.<br /> <br /> You can add "and must not discriminate" to cover points 1,5..10 if you really want.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.67&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.67"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_68"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_68"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 22:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">68 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.68">39145.68</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You are all insane.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.68&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.68"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_69"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_69"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 22:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 22:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">69 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.69">39145.69</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.66#a39145_68" target="_self">39145.68</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <del>You</del><em>We</em>.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.69&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.69"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_70"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_70"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 22:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 23:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">70 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.70">39145.70</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.66#a39145_66" target="_self">39145.66</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You're just being a dick.<br /> <br /> No one's claimed that 'developing in public' is a <i>prerequisite</i> of being Open Source. It is, however, <i>usually a result</i> of it. The source code being publicly available <i>is</i> a prerequisite. And since it's easier to update a GIT repo than to maintain a public and private branch, in the vastly overwhelming number of cases, Open Source stuff <i>is</i> developed in public.<br /> <br /> Since is it Open Source you can <i>download the source code and compile it yourself</i>. In most cases, as in the case of GIMP, you also have access to the development code and can download and compile that. Therefore it is perfectly fucking acceptable to say, particularly in a specific situation where <i>it is the case</i> that, since it is open source, you can get it.<br /> <br /> If it were proprietary you would not, in the vastly overwhelming number of cases, have access to the source code and be free to do this. I was making a distinction between common methodologies, not quibbling about licenses like a twat.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.70&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.70"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_71"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_71"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time"> 4 Dec 2011 00:56</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Dec 2011 01:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">71 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.71">39145.71</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.55">39145.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah I don't think that'd help much - I think the whole UI for this sort of application needs to be rethought.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.71&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.71"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_72"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_72"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 4 Dec 2011 01:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Dec 2011 07:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">72 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.72">39145.72</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.66#a39145_71" target="_self">39145.71</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aye, I agree.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.72&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.72"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_73"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_73"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)<span class="message_time"> 4 Dec 2011 18:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Dec 2011 18:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">73 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.73">39145.73</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.66#a39145_72" target="_self">39145.72</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I agree with your agreement.</p> <p> </p> <p>ZOMG. XEN, I THINK IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT. <span class="emoticon e_shock" title=":O"><span class="e__">:O</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.73&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.73"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_74"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_74"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)<span class="message_time"> 5 Dec 2011 09:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Dec 2011 10:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">74 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.74">39145.74</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.1">39145.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I remember reading something about a UI plugin for GIMP that rearranges the menus and buttons so it mimics Photoshop (assuming you're more used to that). Might help?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.74&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.74"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_75"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_75"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 5 Dec 2011 11:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">75 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.75">39145.75</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <a href="http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00388-gimp-2-7-4-soon-gimp-2-8-follows">http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00388-gimp-2-7-4-soon-gimp-2-8-follows</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.75&return_msg=39145.66" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.75"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>