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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.0&return_msg=39145.23"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.31">31–40</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.71">71–75</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=39145.23">GIMP</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="39145_23_75_10"> <a name="a39145_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 01:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 01:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.23">39145.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.18">39145.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ok, sure if you're using Photoshop in a very amateur/photographer (i.e. just rebalancing stuff, cropping, a bit of cloning or watever) way then I accept that PS is slightly more transparent in its presentation of such tools, though not by as much as you claim. There are easier to use programs for that kinda thing though and it's not really the predominant use of photoshop these days.<br /> <br /> Using either for graphic design (as I do a lot for work) is an entirely different kettle of piss and they're about equally unintuitive. And as DXMSMXMIX says, one costs £700 less.<br /> <br /> I don't think the GIMP is particularly good but I don't think it's much worse than photoshop (the only major failings of the gimp being lack of hardware acceleration and CYMK support (though I don't personally care about the latter, I do very little for print), especially not in terms of usability. Given the price difference and difference in philosophy I'd much rather use the GIMP (though I'd rather not have to use either).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.23&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 01:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 01:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.24">39145.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.19">39145.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Why is it only Windows and Mac people advocating using Photoshop?<br /> <br /> Dick.<br /> <br /> If popular means good then I guess you'll accept that IE is the best web browser.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.24&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 01:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.25">39145.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.21">39145.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I can do what I need to do in either application (I use them for work too). I just don't find it pleasurable, ever. Both of them piss me off. Unlike, say, Artrage, which is a pleasure to use (not in the same application as PS/GIMP though).<br /> <br /> I don't know how much of that is bad design and how much is just the inherent complexity.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.25&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 02:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.26">39145.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.23#a39145_23" target="_self">39145.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I use the easier to use programs for that kinda thing.<br /> <br /> I want an editor that supports complex layers, proper masking, all the standard raster and vector tools, decent text tools with leading and kerning, and so on.<br /> <br /> As I've pointed out, I keep trying GIMP hoping that someone has come along and made it not shit, but every time I'm disappointed.<br /> <br /> <br /> I <em>should</em> be more annoyed with Photoshop because it's got a huge team behind it, is Adobe's flagship product, and so on - probably in terms of time/effort/money expended PS is by far the worse piece, but it still doesn't make me as angry as GIMP does when I try to use it.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.26&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 02:14</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">27 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.27">39145.27</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.23#a39145_24" target="_self">39145.24</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Because producing Photoshop for Linux probably wont make Adobe money, and that's the only reason they'd do it for.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.27&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 02:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">28 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.28">39145.28</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.23#a39145_27" target="_self">39145.27</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Works fine in Wine.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.28&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_29"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_29"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 02:31</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">29 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.29">39145.29</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.23#a39145_28" target="_self">39145.28</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Wine is shit.<br /> <br /> <span style="color: white">:<u></u>D</span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.29&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.29"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_30"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_30"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 02:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:43"></span></span> <span class="message_count">30 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.30">39145.30</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.23#a39145_29" target="_self">39145.29</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_questioned" title=":?"><span class="e__">:?</span></span><br /> <br /> In what way?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.30&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.30"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_31"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_31"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 02:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">31 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.31">39145.31</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39145.23#a39145_30" target="_self">39145.30</a></div> <div class="message_body"> In a white way. <span class="emoticon e_tongue" title=":P"><span class="e__">:P</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39145.31&return_msg=39145.23" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39145.31"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39145_32"></a><div class="message" id="message_39145_32"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 3 Dec 2011 02:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 3 Dec 2011 02:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">32 of 75</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a 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