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So now all android phones are in violation of their patents.<br /> <br /> I don't think that's what the intent of patents were. It's very strange. Monopolies are illegal here, yet we have patents that allow them to be formed. I'm so confused!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.4&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 03:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 03:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.5">38716.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_4" target="_self">38716.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, patents are basically fucked. It's funny that patents and copyright were set up to <i>protect</i> creativity and innovation. Now they're used to stifle the very same.<br /> <br /> I think Apple are becoming the new IBM. I mean in that their strategy in this is to just sue anyone who comes anywhere near what they do and then do a deal so that they both share their patents (they cross-license so that they protect eachother from being sued while increasing the number of companies they can 'defensively' sue in future). <br /> <br /> Good to see that Apple look like they're going to lose the 'app store' suit they brought against Amazon though.<br /> <br /> But yeah, generally speaking, copyright and patents are used utterly inappropriately. They just don't work any more (if they ever did) and they're actively damaging to technology and the internet.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.5&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 03:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 03:59"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.6">38716.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_5" target="_self">38716.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I agree, but I think I read that there is no way Apple will license to Android and there isn't a workaround to the patent. The thing is so vague and broad that it really could apply to most things in a computer.<br /> <br /> At least IBM would do a deal, I fear Apple won't.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.6&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 04:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 04:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.7">38716.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_6" target="_self">38716.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aye, I guess that one's different. It's a ridiculous patent. I mean... they're also going ot have to sue pretty much every RTS game on PC - they're all allowed for the scaling and rotating of images on a screen...</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.7&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 04:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 04:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.8">38716.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_6" target="_self">38716.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> (it's shit like this that makes me wish I could force myself to use Linux more. I certainly find Windows more pleasant to use (partly because I'm just used to it, sure) but... I just want to move myself away from all this proprietary bullshit)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.8&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 04:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 04:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.9">38716.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_8" target="_self">38716.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's getting there. For the desktop I love Windows, and on Servers. But mobile I will take Linux every time. Android is a really good OS. And soon our phones and computers will magically melt into one thing.<br /> <br /> But really how many ways can you make a device recognize a url or phone number? Fucking dumb!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.9&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 04:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 04:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.10">38716.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_9" target="_self">38716.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I hate convergence <span class="emoticon e_crying" title=":(("><span class="e__">:((</span></span><br /> <br /> Well, I don't mind it. So long as the desktop PC survives. I <i>like</i> the desktop PC.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.10&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 04:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 04:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.11">38716.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_5" target="_self">38716.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There <em>has</em> to be some way we can do <em>something</em> about patents?<br /> <br /> Short of fire-bombing all patent offices and violently attacking all individuals that continue to support the whole damned heap of dung.<br /> <br /> Like writing up a document explaining and proving how patents are screwing innovators and damaging the economy at exactly the time when governments should be promoting growth, and then send it to all politicians world-wide and get as many people as possible to tell them if they don't ditch the shit they won't get into power next time round.<br /> <br /> I dunno if there's enough angry techies that such a move might have any impact at all (or even if someone has already tried it), but I really hate that companies can just continue to go around getting and exploiting patents like this. <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span><br /> <br /> Please Drew, go make the whole world stop it. <span class="emoticon e_cry" title=":'("><span class="e__">:'(</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.11&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38716_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_38716_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2011 04:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2011 04:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 23</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.12">38716.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38716.3#a38716_10" target="_self">38716.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah they've been killing he desktop for years.<br /> <br /> For everyday stuff, sure I could use my phone with a wireless kb/mouse and bigger monitor. But not for killing zombies!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38716.12&return_msg=38716.3" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38716.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="38716.13" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>