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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.0&return_msg=38514.51"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.41">41–50</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51">51–60</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.61">61–70</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.201">201–205</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=38514.51">Does this piss anyone else off?</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="38514_51_205_10"> <a name="a38514_51"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_51"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 17:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 May 2011 17:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">51 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51">38514.51</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.50">38514.50</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Stock. I like my browser to be as invisible As possible. I only o csionaly use more than one window at a time on mobile.</p> <p> </p> <p>Ideally I'd like to not even know I'm using a browser, and stock manages this most of the time quite well.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.51&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.51"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_52"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_52"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 17:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">52 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.52">38514.52</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51#a38514_51" target="_self">38514.51</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I'm having nothing but trouble with all 3 of my browsers today. Tried getting to the site multiple time and it just locks up. Had to pull my battery twice already. Surely there has to something better out there?</p> <p> </p> <p>Also I noticed in the advanced settings or the Moreno browser you can change user agents. Does that only effect how the browser reports to a server or does it also change rendering agents?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.52&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.52"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_53"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_53"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 18:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 May 2011 18:42"></span></span> <span class="message_count">53 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.53">38514.53</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.48">38514.48</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I don't care much for the tabbed thing on my mobile. I'm not usually multitasking on the phone so it's not a bigger seller for me.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.53&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.53"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_54"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_54"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 19:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 May 2011 19:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">54 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.54">38514.54</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.44">38514.44</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Meant to say others probably too but couldn't be bothered to type more on my phone earlier. Not really sure if it crashes more with 2.3 while editing text but the cursor placement is definitely troublesome on 2.3.</p> <p> </p> <p>I just use the stock browser, and not the HTC modified one. I find Dolphin takes up a little too much screen space and found the side bits annoying when scrolling sideways.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.54&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.54"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_55"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_55"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 19:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 May 2011 19:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">55 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.55">38514.55</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.44">38514.44</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b><a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.44">Matt</a></div><div class="quote">It's gotten especially worse since the text selection changes landed in Android 2.3 for me.</div><br /> Can you expand on that bit?<br /> <br /> Whilst I haven't got any objective proof, I think I would say that I've had more crashes since 2.3.4 got installed, compared to whatever I had on it when I first got it (either 2.3.1 or 2.3.2).<br /> <br /> But I'm unsure if you're referring to the 2.3.4 upgrade, or the change from 2.2 to 2.3.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.55&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.55"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_56"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_56"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 19:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 May 2011 19:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">56 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.56">38514.56</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51#a38514_55" target="_self">38514.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Prior to 2.3 (the feature turned up in 2.3 according <a href="http://www.geardiary.com/2010/01/12/android-tip-selecting-text-to-copy-and-paste-without-a-keyboard/">this</a>), text was selected by tapping and dragging your finger over text you wanted to select. It was completely unusable on touch screens, but I can't recall having problems with the browser crashing using it.<br /> <br /> I don't have any proof that it is the cause, but as you said it just seem like the browser is most prone to crashing when position the caret or trying to select text to copy and paste.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.56&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.56"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_57"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_57"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 20:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 May 2011 20:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">57 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.57">38514.57</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51#a38514_56" target="_self">38514.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Whilst that could certainly explain some of my crashes - probably over half - it doesn't explain them all.<br /> <br /> Sometimes I get it when pressing outside of the text box (though that could involve tidying up the caret I guess), and twice today I had it when pressing the "go" button - I can't get that to select text in any way (unless I first do menu>select text).<br /> <br /> I wonder if there's crash logs anywhere that might provide stack traces.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.57&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.57"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_58"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_58"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 20:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 May 2011 20:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">58 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.58">38514.58</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51#a38514_57" target="_self">38514.57</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Might be able to see it with logcat (from adb shell / terminal), but filtering the background noise might be hard to do.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 22 May 2011 20:09 by MATT</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.58&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.58"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_59"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_59"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">22 May 2011 21:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">59 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.59">38514.59</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51#a38514_58" target="_self">38514.58</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>When did it become the norm for me to pay the usual price for something and then have to put it together?</p> <p> </p> <p>This pisses me off!!!!!</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.59&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38514.59"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38514_60"></a><div class="message" id="message_38514_60"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">23 May 2011 00:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">60 of 205</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.60">38514.60</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38514.51#a38514_59" target="_self">38514.59</a></div> <div class="message_body"> After I got this bitch together I noticed a sticker that said "free assembly" /fuckers/</div> <div class="message_attachments"> <span>Attachments:</span> <ul> <li><span class="image attach"></span><a href="get_attachment.php?webtag=DEFAULT&hash=e9a6f92781e64e3bd04faa91eb0ca6bd&filename=grill.jpg" target="_blank">grill.jpg</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38514.60&return_msg=38514.51" class="reply"><span class="image 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