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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.0&return_msg=38188.50"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.41">41–50</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.51">51–60</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.61">61–70</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.91">91–95</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=38188.50">HTML radio buttons</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="38188_50_95_10"> <a name="a38188_50"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_50"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 22:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Feb 2011 10:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">50 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50">38188.50</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.49">38188.49</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think if someone uses not-IE they've already demonstrated their willingness to go elsewhere if something better comes along.<br /> <br /> And when Chrome goes the way of FF something else will come along. Maybe even Opera <span class="emoticon e_eek" title="8-O"><span class="e__">8-O</span></span><br /> <br /> And FF's numbers are starting to fall. Up to this point it does seem that Chrome has been taking uses from IE (assuming it's as simple as the stats suggest and not something weird like IE->FF->Chrome). But yeah, the past few months have seen FF's numbers falling too.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.50&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.50"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_51"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_51"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 22:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">51 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.51">38188.51</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.48">38188.48</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I still use FF, cos I hate Chrome.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.51&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.51"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_52"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_52"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">52 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.52">38188.52</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50#a38188_51" target="_self">38188.51</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Then you are a worthless anachronism.<br /> <br /> <span class="emoticon e_hug" title="(hug)"><span class="e__">(hug)</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.52&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.52"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_53"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_53"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">53 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.53">38188.53</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50#a38188_52" target="_self">38188.52</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I could be the new TAK.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.53&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.53"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_54"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_54"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">54 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.54">38188.54</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50#a38188_53" target="_self">38188.53</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_happycry" title=":'D"><span class="e__">:'D</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.54&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.54"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_55"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_55"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">55 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.55">38188.55</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.48">38188.48</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I use Chrome too, but not for customisability (in fact it's the frustrating lack of being able to get my preferences which is likely to see me switch to Opera 11 or Firefox 4).<br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">I think if someone uses not-IE they've already demonstrated their willingness to go elsewhere if something better comes along.</div><br /> Depends why they're not using IE - did they actively choose, did they stumble upon the Browser Choice shortcut, did their techy friend/relative make the choice for them, etc?<br /> <br /> I wouldn't be surprised if Firefox was falling - in the past it was really just IE vs not-IE (Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox).<br /> <br /> Now there's a choice of non-IE browsers (with a huge simplification of...) one for people who just want a browser, and one for people who want their browser to work their way. (not necessarily a direct correlation to techyness)<br /> <br /> Firefox may well lose most of the first (much larger) camp to Chrome, and only lose some of the smaller second camp (if you've got your browser working exactly how you want, you need inertia to move).<br /> <br /> It'll still be one of the top three browsers though, and remain relevant - even if it does drop below 10% it's still have a very vocal group of people using it.<br /> <br /> <br /> As for Opera... dunno what to make of them. There's a couple of Opera guys doing HTML5-related presentations at a conference I'm going to in a few weeks - might see if I can ask them "why have you only got 2%" and see what they say. <span class="emoticon e_smile" title=":)"><span class="e__">:)</span></span><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 10 Feb 2011 23:09 by BOUGHTONP</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.55&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.55"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_56"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_56"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">56 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.56">38188.56</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50#a38188_50" target="_self">38188.50</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">And FF's numbers are starting to fall</div><br /> <br /> From what source?<br /> <br /> Wikipedia is not showing statistically significant change:<br /> <br /> <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Usage_share_of_web_browsers_%28Source_Stat_Counter%29.svg/600px-Usage_share_of_web_browsers_%28Source_Stat_Counter%29.svg.png" /><br /> <br /> (Well, I haven't actually calculated, because I don't remember how, but it seems pretty steady around 30% for the past year, and up from 27% at the end of 2008.)<br /> <br /> <br /> Oooh, they've got a non-IE chart too:<br /> <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Usage_share_of_alternative_web_browsers_%28Source_Stat_Counter%29.svg/600px-Usage_share_of_alternative_web_browsers_%28Source_Stat_Counter%29.svg.png" /><br /> <br /> From ~Nov 2009 there's a slight downward trend, but it'd have to accelerate a lot to go anywhere any time soon?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.56&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.56"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_57"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_57"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">57 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.57">38188.57</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50#a38188_56" target="_self">38188.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I said in the last coupla months and you show me year by year graphs? And wonder why you don't see a dip?<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp">http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.57&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.57"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_58"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_58"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Feb 2011 23:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">58 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.58">38188.58</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50#a38188_57" target="_self">38188.57</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What? You don't expect me to actually pay attention to what you're saying?<br /> <br /> Not sure how reliable monthly charts are, but certainly I'm not going to pay attention to w3schools ones.<br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b>that page</div><div class="quote">the browser figures above are not 100% realistic</div><br /> <br /> Even assuming it's a profile of web developers is wrong, because sensible web devs don't use the site.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.58&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.58"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38188_59"></a><div class="message" id="message_38188_59"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Feb 2011 23:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Feb 2011 00:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">59 of 95</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.59">38188.59</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38188.50#a38188_58" target="_self">38188.58</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There are no reliable stats. Because it's something which differs vastly from site to site and any site-neutral means of measuring tend towards self-selection.<br /> <br /> I trust the w3schools one because it most closely reflects the analytics on the sites I work on (which tend to be big, non-technical stuff relating to TV/Popular music - very general audience).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38188.59&return_msg=38188.50" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38188.59"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="38188.60" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>