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"Do some fucking work"</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3461&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3461"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3462"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3462"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 6 Mar 2012 23:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">3462 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3462">38140.3462</a></div> <div class="message_body"> (24% converted)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3462&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3462"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3463"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3463"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 03:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Mar 2012 07:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3463 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3463">38140.3463</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3461#a38140_3462" target="_self">38140.3462</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Wow, that's a speedy process isn't it! All for what? A few new monsters and a higher sky? Whoop whoop!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3463&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3463"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3464"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3464"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 04:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Mar 2012 04:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3464 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3464">38140.3464</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3461#a38140_3463" target="_self">38140.3463</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's not affecting the monsters, and it's more than just adding height.<br /> <br /> It's a complete change of how the data is stored, which makes it more efficient <em>and</em> more flexible for mod authors.<br /> <br /> It shouldn't take as long as it is, but I guess that's a combination of:<br /> 1a) Minecraft storing each region (512x512 block areas) in individual files;<br /> 1b) Us lot having explored and built things across relatively vast area;<br /> 1c) the server being Windows, which isn't great at handling large numbers of files;<br /> 2) Mojang not bothering to performance test the process on non-small worlds, and thus putting little/no effort into optimising the code once it was completed.<br /> <br /> <br /> (Mostly I suspect it's down to reason 2 there.)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3464&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3464"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3465"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3465"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 04:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Mar 2012 04:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3465 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3465">38140.3465</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3461#a38140_3464" target="_self">38140.3464</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I was being a bit facetious there Pete. But yeah I agree it's probably #2 mostly. It's a fun game but I don't think I understand why it's written in Java.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3465&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3465"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3466"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3466"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 04:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Mar 2012 04:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3466 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3466">38140.3466</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3461#a38140_3465" target="_self">38140.3465</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Simple: because Notch knew Java.<br /> <br /> And that's not <em>really</em> the problem - Java is perfectly capable of being fast enough.<br /> <br /> Assuming the in-game converter uses the same code as the standalone tool, which I just had a quick look at, then the slowness probably comes from a bunch of debugging functions left turned on, (and using an exponentially slow method of concatenating strings for some of them).<br /> <br /> *shrug* Oh well.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3466&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3466"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3467"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3467"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 04:56</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Mar 2012 14:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3467 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3467">38140.3467</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3461#a38140_3466" target="_self">38140.3466</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yup. Oh well. Better than I can do.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3467&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3467"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3468"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3468"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 07:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">3468 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3468">38140.3468</a></div> <div class="message_body"> ... 68%</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3468&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3468"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3469"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3469"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mouse<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 08:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Mar 2012 09:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3469 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3469">38140.3469</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3461#a38140_3468" target="_self">38140.3468</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Can we have a hangout while it's processing with you slowly unwinding a piece of ribbon ad if it's a progress bar?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3469&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3469"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_3470"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_3470"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 7 Mar 2012 09:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Mouse <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Mar 2012 19:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3470 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3470">38140.3470</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.3461#a38140_3469" target="_self">38140.3469</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>It's going to have to be a very long piece of ribbon or I'm going to have to do it verrrrrrrrry slowly.</p> <p> </p> <p>(79%)</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.3470&return_msg=38140.3461" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.3470"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="38140.3471" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>