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I'm glad it only took me asking politely 10 times and an argument on the forum to get you to see what everyone else seemed to take for granted.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2482&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2482"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2483"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2483"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mikee<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 11:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">2483 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2483">38140.2483</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">Excellent, thanks. I'm glad it only took me asking politely 10 times and an argument on the forum to get you to see what everyone else seemed to take for granted.</div><br /> <br /> ..... at what point did you become such a dick?<br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">It's pretty fucking easy really.<br /> <br /> I'll do a helpful and beautiful diagram.</div><br /> <br /> <br /> And that's really easy to see for a new person coming onto the server, isn't it?<br /> <br /> No, it's really not. I see lots of buildings in random places and have no idea who built them and what plans they have for the future.<br /> <br /> But thanks for the diagram.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 11:31 by MIKEE</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2483&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2483"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2484"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2484"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 11:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Mikee <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 11:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2484 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2484">38140.2484</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2482#a38140_2483" target="_self">38140.2483</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">..... at what point did you become such a dick?</div><br /> <br /> I think I've pretty much always been a dick. <br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">And that's really easy to see for a new person coming onto the server, isn't it?</div><br /> <br /> As I say, no one else seemed to struggle. And I did tell you several times.<br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">But thanks for the diagram.</div><br /> <br /> My pleasure <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span></span> <span class="emoticon e_hug" title="(hug)"><span class="e__">(hug)</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2484&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2484"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2485"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2485"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: patch<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 11:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 11:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2485 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2485">38140.2485</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2478">38140.2478</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You left Oscar off that diagram, you elitist /bastard/.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2485&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2485"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2486"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2486"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 11:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 11:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2486 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2486">38140.2486</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2482#a38140_2485" target="_self">38140.2485</a></div> <div class="message_body"> OSCAR I AM SORRY!<br /> <br /> <span class="emoticon e_tear_confused" title=":'S"><span class="e__">:'S</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2486&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2486"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2487"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2487"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 11:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 12:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2487 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2487">38140.2487</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2478">38140.2478</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Maybe elitist is the wrong word. But what you've said is exactly what it feels like. What I mean is, if I'm new and I start building and you ask politely that I move (ask, not tell), it can still come across as being <i>told</i> to by someone who was here before me and thus comes across as being more important. That doesn't of course mean they are of course, just that's the way it comes across.<br /> <br /> And because there isn't an immediately obvious reason why I'm being "told" to move, just that you might build there, it's makes it confusing. <br /> <br /> Maybe being made to feel excluded is a better choice of words.<br /> <br /> And I didn't just say it's not easy, I gave a specific example as to why it appears to not be easy.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2487&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2487"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2488"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2488"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 11:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 12:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2488 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2488">38140.2488</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2478">38140.2478</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>And me too, with my tiny entrance to f'loads of caves (and lava <span class="emoticon e_csad" title=":C"><span class="e__">:C</span></span> ) and a pointless stairway to the skies, just to the lower left of Lindy <span class="emoticon e_cry" title=":'("><span class="e__">:'(</span></span></p> <p> </p> <p>(I AM KIDDING. I don't actually give a sh*t)</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2488&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2488"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2489"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2489"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 12:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 12:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2489 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2489">38140.2489</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2482#a38140_2487" target="_self">38140.2487</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I don't know what you're basing this on but none of that is really what happened.<br /> <br /> I say again: No one else had a problem with this. Everyone had the decency/social intelligence to either find an empty spot or say "hey, mind if I build x over here?". That's co-operation, and there's nothing remotely elitist about it. It is, quite simply, courtesy. It's not hard.<br /> <br /> I didn't just ask Mikee to move without explanation - that's not what happened. I said something very much like: "That's really close to my stuff - why not find an ampty area to build in like everyone else has? There's plenty of empty space out there". He's also not exactly all that new - he knows us all and he build a pretty lengthy railway out into <i>empty space</i> before he started what he's doing now.<br /> <br /> There's no rules to this, it's pretty organic and social and co-operative. If you want to know something, you ask and you err on the side of caution where other peoples' stuff is concerned. I wouldn't go and build the Eiffel Tower next to Ken's Space Needle or go and enclose Jon's maze-map in soil or whatever despite there being no rules against doing so.<br /> <br /> It just takes a bit of common sense, a bit of courtesy and ... listening when someone tells you something.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2489&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2489"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2490"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2490"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 12:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 13:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2490 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2490">38140.2490</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2482#a38140_2488" target="_self">38140.2488</a></div> <div class="message_body"> But you're a gypsy, constantly on the move. The whole map is your home, Serg <span class="emoticon e_hug" title="(hug)"><span class="e__">(hug)</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2490&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2490"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2491"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2491"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 12:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 12:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2491 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2491">38140.2491</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2482#a38140_2484" target="_self">38140.2484</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>You forgot to cram someone in between my old build and you. Hence the new me.</p> <p> </p> <p><br /> Edit: You can actually mark my old place Tanner's.</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 12:12 by SHIELDSIT</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2491&return_msg=38140.2482" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2491"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="38140.2492" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>