Scanning a Windows drive from OS X (-me-do) - Teh Forum

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At least you can still get the data off it.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.9&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: paul<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2010 19:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2010 19:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.10">37580.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.3">37580.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks for the heads up on MSE, have passed on the info.<br /> <br /> <span class="emoticon e_appledee" title="(appled)"><span class="e__">(appled)</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.10&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ixion<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2010 19:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Jul 2010 20:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.11">37580.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.8">37580.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It may well do, depends if you actively turned off system restore, if not you may be able to recover to a system restore point. If you're running snow leopard or leopard then you can use the built in disk tools in OSX to scan an NTFS volume for file integrity if you install NTFS-3G first which allows you to do everything you could possibly need to with an NTFS partition in OSX (read/write instead of just read).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.11&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">18 Jul 2010 20:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ixion <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 17:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.12">37580.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.9#a37580_11" target="_self">37580.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>You have to be able to boot into windows to use system restore. It's never actually worked for me, even when I was able to boot up and try it. It can also really slow down your pc as it writes restore points at seemingly random intervals, and will do everything on your hdd (requiring vast amounts of storage), unless you deliberately exclude partitions. </p> <p> </p> <p>I've had better luck using the backup utility, it will even restore from another installation, as long as you point it at the right partition(s). Furthermore you can select which individual files to restore, if you know exactly where the problem is. Best thing is to make a backup right after a clean install, again after installing drivers, and again after main apps (keeping each backup on optical media). </p> <p> </p> <p>It is way faster than having to go back and do a clean install.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.12&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 09:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 10:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.13">37580.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.8">37580.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'd try booting from an XP CD and running a repair installation of it. Ignore the recovery console bits and continue as if it were a fresh installation. At some point, it should scan for existing copies of Windows, spot the one that's there and give you a "repair" option for it. This should retain all programs and settings, but should overwrite all system files with clean copies in case one has become screwed up.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.13&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 13:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 13:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14">37580.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.9#a37580_13" target="_self">37580.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> >Ignore the recovery console bits<br /> <br /> You have nothing to lose by running the recovery option first. The problem is as likely to be a disk error as it is a corrupted system file, as far as we know at this point. Repairing an NTFS disk is only 100% bulletproof when done from Windows (as opposed to using OS X/Linux and NTFS 3G), and that is one of the main things recovery console does (the others are restore MBR and boot files).<br /> <br /> Another disk repair option is to pull the drive, stick it in another pc, and repair it from there. You could even try manually restoring some known, critical system files, removing graphics drivers, anything that will get it to boot into safe mode.<br /> <br /> If disk repair doesn't work, <i>then</i> try a repair installation -- then you will have to re-install all patches, and likely a fair bit of drivers and apps too.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.14&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 13:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 15:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.15">37580.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.9#a37580_14" target="_self">37580.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> And what commands would you run from the recovery console? As it boots, the MBR etc. is OK. Chkdsk is also unlikely to turn a none-booting Windows installation into a booting installation. It may fix a bad sector, but it won't recover the file which was sitting there. The recovery console is useful for specific tasks, but just "fixing a version of Windows which blue screens during the boot" isn't really one of them.<br /> <br /> Suggesting that switching the drive into another machine and manually copying DLLs around is likely to be faster and less painful than a simple repair installation then a re-installation of a few patches though is just daft!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.15&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 13:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 15:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.16">37580.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.9#a37580_14" target="_self">37580.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>What Dave!! said basically. I've fixed so many XP installations with a Repair Installation.</p> <p> </p> <p>In this case he might not have another PC to stick the drive into meaning that option wouldn't be possible.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.16&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 15:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 17:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.17">37580.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.9#a37580_15" target="_self">37580.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>>Chkdsk is also unlikely to turn a none-booting Windows installation into a booting installation. It may fix a bad sector, but it won't recover the file which was sitting there.</p> <p> </p> <p>You've heard of journallng?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.17&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 15:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 15:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.18">37580.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.9#a37580_16" target="_self">37580.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">What Dave!! said basically. I've fixed so many XP installations with a Repair Installation.<br /> <br /> In this case he might not have another PC to stick the drive into meaning that option wouldn't be possible.</div><br /> <br /> True. He might not. <br /> <br /> OTOH, he has stated he <b>does not</b> have an installer cd...<br /> <br /> I've fixed several unbootable Windows installations using both methods. If it works, the recovery console is way faster. If it doesn't, you can still do the other.<br /> <br /> Of course the best way is to plan for inevitable Windows failure, and set up two Windows installations on the same pc, one for backup availability and recovery only.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.18&return_msg=37580.9" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="37580.19" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>