Scanning a Windows drive from OS X (-me-do) - Teh Forum

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The problem is as likely to be a disk error as it is a corrupted system file, as far as we know at this point. Repairing an NTFS disk is only 100% bulletproof when done from Windows (as opposed to using OS X/Linux and NTFS 3G), and that is one of the main things recovery console does (the others are restore MBR and boot files).<br /> <br /> Another disk repair option is to pull the drive, stick it in another pc, and repair it from there. You could even try manually restoring some known, critical system files, removing graphics drivers, anything that will get it to boot into safe mode.<br /> <br /> If disk repair doesn't work, <i>then</i> try a repair installation -- then you will have to re-install all patches, and likely a fair bit of drivers and apps too.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.14&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 13:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 15:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.15">37580.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14#a37580_14" target="_self">37580.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> And what commands would you run from the recovery console? As it boots, the MBR etc. is OK. Chkdsk is also unlikely to turn a none-booting Windows installation into a booting installation. It may fix a bad sector, but it won't recover the file which was sitting there. The recovery console is useful for specific tasks, but just "fixing a version of Windows which blue screens during the boot" isn't really one of them.<br /> <br /> Suggesting that switching the drive into another machine and manually copying DLLs around is likely to be faster and less painful than a simple repair installation then a re-installation of a few patches though is just daft!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.15&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 13:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 15:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.16">37580.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14#a37580_14" target="_self">37580.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>What Dave!! said basically. I've fixed so many XP installations with a Repair Installation.</p> <p> </p> <p>In this case he might not have another PC to stick the drive into meaning that option wouldn't be possible.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.16&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 15:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 17:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.17">37580.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14#a37580_15" target="_self">37580.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>>Chkdsk is also unlikely to turn a none-booting Windows installation into a booting installation. It may fix a bad sector, but it won't recover the file which was sitting there.</p> <p> </p> <p>You've heard of journallng?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.17&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 15:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 15:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.18">37580.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14#a37580_16" target="_self">37580.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">What Dave!! said basically. I've fixed so many XP installations with a Repair Installation.<br /> <br /> In this case he might not have another PC to stick the drive into meaning that option wouldn't be possible.</div><br /> <br /> True. He might not. <br /> <br /> OTOH, he has stated he <b>does not</b> have an installer cd...<br /> <br /> I've fixed several unbootable Windows installations using both methods. If it works, the recovery console is way faster. If it doesn't, you can still do the other.<br /> <br /> Of course the best way is to plan for inevitable Windows failure, and set up two Windows installations on the same pc, one for backup availability and recovery only.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.18&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 17:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">19 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.19">37580.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I have no Windows CD available, but I do have another PC (although like I said, it's a MacBook and it's still under warranty so pulling out the drive isn't really an option) and full access to the borked HDD from OS X. I ran OS X's disk utility repair on the drive and it did something for a while but made no difference. <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 19 Jul 2010 17:09 by OZGUR</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.19&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">19 Jul 2010 17:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Jul 2010 18:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.20">37580.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14#a37580_19" target="_self">37580.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Are you able to download and burn an XP CD?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.20&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)<span class="message_time">22 Jul 2010 18:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">21 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.21">37580.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Right, I'd better actually try to fix this instead of just pretending it doesn't exist...</p> <p> </p> <p>I might/should be able to get hold of an XP CD and boot from that. I /think/ that both my borked install and the disc are XP Home but if they're not, what will happen? Will an XP Home disc repair an installed XP Pro?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.21&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">22 Jul 2010 19:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Jul 2010 19:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.22">37580.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14#a37580_21" target="_self">37580.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> No, no it won't.<br /> <br /> And to make it even more annoying, you'll need a disk which matches the type of license as well. For Home, you've got OEM and Retail disks. For Pro, you've got OEM, Retail and Volume License disks.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.22&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a37580_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_37580_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)<span class="message_time">22 Jul 2010 19:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jul 2010 09:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.23">37580.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=37580.14#a37580_22" target="_self">37580.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hrmm... <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span><br /> <br /> If I boot from the disc (assuming <i>that</i> all works fine), and the editions don't match, will I be able to install a new copy of Windows, retrieve data and then delete the old one?<br /> <br /> Also, how much space does your common or garden XP Home take up. I'm currently at about 1GB free so space will need to be made no matter what, just wondering how much I should budget for.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=37580.23&return_msg=37580.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="37580.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="37580.24" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>