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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.0&return_msg=36147.16"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.21">21–30</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.51">51–56</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=36147.16">Google IO / HTML5 Keynote / Wave</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="36147_16_56_10"> <a name="a36147_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_36147_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: patch<span class="message_time">31 May 2009 01:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 01:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 56</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.16">36147.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.15">36147.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Also, I wish this guy would stop saying "thank you" as soon as the first person claps. It's like he's prompting the rest of the audience to start clapping, so he can say "thank you" again.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.16&return_msg=36147.16" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="36147.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a36147_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_36147_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">31 May 2009 01:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 01:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 56</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.17">36147.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.14">36147.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think this one will be a slow burner until someone makes a UI which really takes advantage of it, then it'll become ubiquitous.<br /> <br /> I think it will become ubiquitous though. It can't not. It's the first thing I've seen which genuinely looks like the 'next step' for the net.<br /> <br /> As for people avoiding it cos it's google, that's not really a valid position (not that that will stop them all) cos it's completely open. A third party could build a wave server from scratch (not just host one but write one) cos the protocol is open as well as the source of their server (I think) and the API. If it goes as they expect then there'll be a good healthy ecology of servers like there are for email, web, ftp etc.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.17&return_msg=36147.16" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="36147.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a36147_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_36147_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">31 May 2009 01:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 02:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 56</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.18">36147.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.15">36147.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You can close off a server same as you can with an email server. It doesn't /have/ to communicate with the rest of the world's wave things.<br /> <br /> Resource wise, I imagine it's going to take a lot to run one of these. I know google do clever code but this thing must eat resources. Especially when you scale it up a bit.<br /> <br /> And yeah, didn't think much of the (form of) the presentation. "thank you... thank you.... thank you....". Good content though.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.18&return_msg=36147.16" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="36147.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a36147_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_36147_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">31 May 2009 01:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 02:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 56</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.19">36147.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.15">36147.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> (and of course there'll be gateways to things like email, so i could be able to email you from wave and to me it's a wave, including your replies etc., but as far as you're concerned it's just an email. So it's not one of those all-or-nothing things which requires both/all parties to join. I think that's a big strength)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.19&return_msg=36147.16" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="36147.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><div class="message"> Message 36147.20 was deleted</div> <a name="a36147_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_36147_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">31 May 2009 15:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 16:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 56</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.21">36147.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.13">36147.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> thank you</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.21&return_msg=36147.16" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="36147.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a36147_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_36147_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">31 May 2009 15:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 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class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 16:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 56</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.23">36147.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.16#a36147_19" target="_self">36147.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> thank you</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.23&return_msg=36147.16" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="36147.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a36147_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_36147_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">31 May 2009 15:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 May 2009 15:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 56</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.24">36147.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=36147.16#a36147_16" target="_self">36147.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> (sorry)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=36147.24&return_msg=36147.16" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="36147.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up 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