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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.0&return_msg=35274.15"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.21">21–30</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.51">51–55</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=35274.15">Windows 7 (fail)</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="35274_15_55_10"> <a name="a35274_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 4 Nov 2008 14:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Nov 2008 16:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.15">35274.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.14">35274.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>>>You can move the buttons around, which I've wanted since Windows 95, so that's good. </p> <p> </p> <p>Wooo! Finally! I used to have a plug in thingy that let you do that... Hmm, was it a power tool? I dunno. I lost it in a reformat years ago but it was sooo handy if you're anal like me about tasbard window order (I'm having cold sweats today because Outlook opened after IE and it's at the wrong end of the taskbar and I'm too lazy to close the various IE windows I need to sort it out)</p> <p> </p> <p>I'll be speaking to Jim this evening to see if I can borrow his copy, me thinks...</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.15&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)<span class="message_time"> 4 Nov 2008 20:22</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Nov 2008 23:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.16">35274.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.12">35274.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I feel a virtual machine moment coming on.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.16&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mal (BAD)<span class="message_time"> 6 Nov 2008 21:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Nov 2008 23:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.17">35274.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.10">35274.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Interesting. I was under the impression that MinWin was just the NT kernel with minimal API layers to make a vaguely functional system but that would seem to indicate that they have also refactored the kernel too to improve the API layering. <br /><br /> On a similar note, there's a great rebuttal to a hilariously* misguided blog post about MinWin <a href="http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/shipping-seven-is-a-fraud/#comment-160264">here</a> <br /> <br /> <font size="1">*warning - may only be amusing to programmers.</font></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.17&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time"> 6 Nov 2008 21:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Nov 2008 23:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.18">35274.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.15#a35274_15" target="_self">35274.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You want Taskbar Shuffle:<br /> <a href="http://www.freewebs.com/nerdcave/taskbarshuffle.htm">http://www.freewebs.com/nerdcave/taskbarshuffle.htm</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.18&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)<span class="message_time"> 6 Nov 2008 22:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Nov 2008 23:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.19">35274.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.2">35274.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I have just finished installing it on to a VM with 1.5Gb RAM. It's running great and pretty fast as well. I installed the Windows 7 superbar hack as well. Its a shame Vm does nto support D3D becuase the bar has lots of snazzy 3D functions. Its pretty much what Vista should have been. moving the tasks around is great and pinning to start bar is pretty useful.</p> <p> </p> <p>Need to play with it some more, it does freeze for no reason when opening certain programs (word pad for one)</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 6 Nov 2008 22:51 by SLAYERPUNX</div> </div> <div class="message_attachments"> <span>Attachments:</span> <ul> <li><span class="image attach"></span><a href="get_attachment.php?webtag=DEFAULT&hash=3e53daa0d021caa3193d43f20efde4a1&filename=windowsmegbar.jpg" target="_blank">windowsmegbar.jpg</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.19&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 6 Nov 2008 23:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Nov 2008 23:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.20">35274.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.15#a35274_18" target="_self">35274.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ooh, that looks like just the thing. Must try and remember to install it when I get home.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.20&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: af (CAER)<span class="message_time"> 6 Nov 2008 23:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Nov 2008 20:59"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.21">35274.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.15#a35274_20" target="_self">35274.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's even got an option to not appear in the system tray, for maximum unobtrusiveness.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.21&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)<span class="message_time"> 7 Nov 2008 00:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Mal (BAD) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 Nov 2008 08:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.22">35274.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.15#a35274_17" target="_self">35274.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I just watched the interview with Mark Russinovich on Channel9, and he said MinWin is an ongoing project to remove upward dependencies in the kernel, which means they can draw a line at the layer which includes the functionality they need (for testing, mainly) and be sure that what they build won't have any dangling bits. It also means they can change or replace APIs more easily since they can reliably map the relationships between them.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.22&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 7 Nov 2008 21:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Nov 2008 00:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.23">35274.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.15#a35274_21" target="_self">35274.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Thanks for the reminder.</p> <p> </p> <p>Just installed it - I love how in the options if you select not to display the system tray icon it puts up a sad face <span class="emoticon e_giggle" title="(giggle)"><span class="e__">(giggle)</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.23&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a35274_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_35274_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 9 Nov 2008 05:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: af (CAER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Nov 2008 14:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 55</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.24">35274.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=35274.15#a35274_21" target="_self">35274.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ahaha, I love the message you get when you disable the systray icon <span class="emoticon e_bigtear" title=":')"><span class="e__">:')</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=35274.24&return_msg=35274.15" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="35274.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="35274.25" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>