It's that time of year again... - Teh Forum

<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.0&return_msg=34582.191"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.171">171–180</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.181">181–190</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191">191–200</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.201">201–210</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.211">211–220</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=34582.191">It's that time of year again...</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="34582_191_220_10"> <a name="a34582_191"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_191"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 6 Oct 2008 19:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Oct 2008 19:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">191 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191">34582.191</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.189">34582.189</a></div> <div class="message_body"> O_o<br /> <br /> I've just received a handful of emails notifying me that "You have ordered a Domain/Virtuozzo Virtuozzo Container CT8209." and stuff.<br /> <br /> Haven't received any reply since the last reply from Libin.<br /> <br /> Hmmm, in the billing section it has "-€699.22 (You owe money to the provider)", with an invoice dated today and the following break-down:<br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">Linux CT4800P CentOS-5 (managed/el5/psa) hosting plan setup fee €0.00<br /> Linux CT4800P CentOS-5 (managed/el5/psa) hosting plan subscription fee €839.40<br /> Promotion Advanced Discount Schedule/Managed CT for Linux CT4800P CentOS-5 (managed/el5/psa) hosting plan subscription fee 30.00% 1 year(s) -€251.82<br /> + EU VAT 19.00 % €111.64<br /> Total €699.22</div><br /> <br /> Getting more than a little bit paranoid now. <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span><br /> <br /> <br /> <em>Argh!</em><br /> <br /> <br /> Just had this comment added to the ticket...<br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b>william@eurovps</div><div class="quote">Dear Peter,<br /> <br /> We have created the invoice for the new Centos5 CT 4800P VPS and please complete the payment.<br /> <br /> Once the migration completed to your new server we would terminate your old one and add the remaining amount as credit note for your new subscription.<br /> <br /> Regards<br /> ---<br /> William U.</div><br /> <br /> <span class="emoticon e_plain" title=":|"><span class="e__">:|</span></span><br /> <br /> <br /> Um, so... I'm going to post this now, and hopefully someone can suggest the best way to reply, using clear words that can't be mis-understood.<br /> <br /> <br /> It looks like the <a href="http://eurovps.com/vps_hosting/unix_plesk_vps_servers.asp">plan page</a> excluded VAT, and now that it's added on the CT4800P is an extra €93 a year than what we're currently paying<br /> Do we actually want the CT2800P, which is €106 less than we currently pay, but still as powerful a server?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.191&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.191"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_192"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_192"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 6 Oct 2008 19:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Oct 2008 12:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">192 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.192">34582.192</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191#a34582_191" target="_self">34582.191</a></div> <div class="message_body"> ... <i>ARGH</i>?<br /> <br /> Does that mean we've got to find 3 months (That's what we've used since renewing) @ €152 ((€606.29 / 12) * 3) + €93 difference?<br /> <br /> Because that's like another £190, but it means we'll renew in September next year, rather than June. However it means we'll be paying almost €700 next year, which is currently £541, but could be much more if the pound continues to loose against the Euro.<br /> <br /> If we go for the 2800P we'll be loosing 400MHz off the CPU speed, but keep the RAM. I have no idea how much disk space we have or have used (including the OS install).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.192&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.192"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_193"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_193"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 12:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">193 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.193">34582.193</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>So are we on the new server now?</p> <p> </p> <p>Has it cost us more <span class="emoticon e_crying" title=":(("><span class="e__">:((</span></span> or less <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span></span> ?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.193&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.193"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_194"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_194"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 13:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Oct 2008 14:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">194 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.194">34582.194</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191#a34582_193" target="_self">34582.193</a></div> <div class="message_body"> This is the new server, hence the redirect to the IP Address. Once the DNS is updated you will be able to reach here via the usual means.<br /> <br /> This should be costing us less each year now, for a very similar spec machine. It's all very much in it's vanilla set up at the moment though so things might go a little pear shaped depending on how MySQL behaves.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.194&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.194"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_195"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_195"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 13:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Oct 2008 14:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">195 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.195">34582.195</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191#a34582_193" target="_self">34582.193</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yep, this is the new IP, so looks like Matt has put a temporary redirect until I can switch the DNS over.<br /> <br /> It will cost us less, but I've had to pay up-front - I think the remaining value of the previous subscription will be added as a credit rather than refunded though - I'll confirm that once things are all settled...</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.195&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.195"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_196"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_196"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 16:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Oct 2008 16:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">196 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.196">34582.196</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191#a34582_194" target="_self">34582.194</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've updated DNS to point to this IP now.<br /> <br /> Also, increased MX priority to 25 (and yes, mail.tehforum.co.uk is pointing at the IP).<br /> <br /> <br /> So, once propagation is complete then we'll be good?<br /> (from a forum perspective)<br /> <br /> <br /> After we're sure DNS is sorted (48 hours max?) then, I'll let EuroVPS know that we've done the migration, and they should kill the old server and process the credit/refund stuff.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.196&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.196"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_197"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_197"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 19:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Oct 2008 19:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">197 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.197">34582.197</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191#a34582_196" target="_self">34582.196</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Domain has already switched here at work, but yeah I'd say leave it until Friday. Almost everyone should have updated by then I would hope.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.197&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.197"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_198"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_198"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 20:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Oct 2008 20:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">198 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.198">34582.198</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191#a34582_196" target="_self">34582.196</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Well done guys!<br /> Looks like you have both done a stella job but if you want help or some extra cash for stuff just shout. (obviously not 100's of pounds or anything, I ain't rich like Kos is!)</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.198&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.198"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_199"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_199"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 20:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 Oct 2008 20:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">199 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.199">34582.199</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.191#a34582_197" target="_self">34582.197</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What Wattsy said, apart from the bit about me being rich.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.199&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.199"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a34582_200"></a><div class="message" id="message_34582_200"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 8 Oct 2008 20:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">200 of 220</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=34582.200">34582.200</a></div> <div class="message_body"> DNS is fine here. BeThere.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=34582.200&return_msg=34582.191" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="34582.200"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="34582.201" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>