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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.0&return_msg=33345.12"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.21">21</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=33345.12">New PC help.</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="33345_12_21_10"> <a name="a33345_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">18 Oct 2007 23:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Username <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Oct 2007 23:58"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12">33345.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.11">33345.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Wait for Jimlad Vista? It's been around for ages! </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.12&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Username<span class="message_time">18 Oct 2007 23:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 00:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.13">33345.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12#a33345_12" target="_self">33345.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Fuck Vista anyways. Its slow in DX9 and slooowwwer in DX 10.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.13&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mal (BAD)<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 07:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Username <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 09:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.14">33345.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.11">33345.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>1GB - 100MB = 0.9GB left for games<br /> 2GB - 200MB = 1.8GB left for games<br /> 2GB - 100MB = 1.9GB left for games</p> <p> </p> <p>The 100MB not being used on startup becomes largely insignificant if you have 2GB of RAM. I can guarantee that all those games you mentioned will perform a lot better if you buy 2GB of RAM.</p> <p> </p> <p>My computer (running XP pro) has 3GB installed which made an enormous difference over the 1GB I had installed previously. I can highly recommend it.</p> <p> </p> <p>And I really wouldn't bother with vista yet.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.14&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 08:10</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Username <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 09:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.15">33345.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.11">33345.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I've run XP with 1GB of RAM and with 2GB of RAM and can state that many modern games run far better with 2GB than 1GB. You get faster level loading, less stuttering in games, etc. For a lot of modern games now such as Bioshock, 1GB is the minimum requirement with 2GB being recommended. Plus RAM is hardly expensive...</p> <p> </p> <p>CPU wise, at lower price points then there's little between Intel and AMD other than Intel's CPUs being more overclockable. True Intel's higher-end chips leave AMD well behind at the moment, but for a £100 or less CPU, both are worth considering if you're not planning on overclocking the system.</p> <p> </p> <p>My advice would be to go for 2GB of RAM, a mid-range mobo (say £50-£75 or so) and then look at getting the best CPU you can with what's left. Don't forget that you may also need to replace your power supply if your old one doesn't have the newer 24pin ATX plug on it.</p> <p> </p> <p>I'd agree with sticking with XP for now personally though.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.15&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Username<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 09:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 10:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.16">33345.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12#a33345_15" target="_self">33345.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Show a piccy.<br /> Im using a 550W (shudders) Q Tec, I bought about a year ago (Only been used solid for 9 months).<br /> I thought my only concern would be PCI-E power cables. But I can remidy that with a molex adpater.<br /> PSUs are so bleedin expensive I see. Not for me.<br /> Iv been looking at a 2.6 64 X2 CPU 2mb cache.<br /> Whats the deal with 1000mhz FBS CPUs and no mobos or ram to support it.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.16&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Username<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 09:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 10:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.17">33345.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12#a33345_15" target="_self">33345.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB <- nice!</p> <p> </p> <p>What games/demos you been throwing at it?<br /> What Res you playing it?<br /> What games you been enjoying atm?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.17&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 10:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Username <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 10:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.18">33345.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12#a33345_16" target="_self">33345.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Should be alright then I'd have thought as it's new enough. It's also certainly powerful enough. My system has a decent 500w supply for instance and runs fine.</p> <p> </p> <p>Regarding 1,066MHz FSB CPUs, there are motherboards around to support them?! The RAM also doesn't have to match the FSB speed these days - particularly not on AMD systems, although faster is obviously better.</p> <p> </p> <p>Graphics wise, my card runs nicely. Handles Oblivion at 1280x960 with all the detail cranked up and it's smooth. Can also play Bioshock at that res with most of the detail fairly high. I've recently played HL2: Episode 2 with all detail to maximum and AA/Ansitropic Filtering cranked up and it's run nice and smoothly. So yes. It's a nice card <span class="emoticon e_smile" title=":)"><span class="e__">:)</span></span></p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.18&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Username<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 10:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 11:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.19">33345.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12#a33345_18" target="_self">33345.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How come you aint bought a TFT yet?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.19&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 11:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Username <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 11:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.20">33345.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12#a33345_19" target="_self">33345.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> No need to. My 19" CRT is big enough and works fine. If it dies, or I move house and don't have enough room for it then I may replace it. For now though, why replace something which works and does its job? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.20&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33345_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_33345_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Username<span class="message_time">19 Oct 2007 11:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Oct 2007 11:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 21</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.21">33345.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33345.12#a33345_20" target="_self">33345.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Dunno.<br /> You without a TFT is like cheese without crackers.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33345.21&return_msg=33345.12" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33345.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>