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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.0&return_msg=33280.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.11">11–17</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=33280.1">Relentless posting of stuff nobody but me cares about</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="33280_1_17_10"> <a name="a33280_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 08:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1">33280.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Woo! Visual Studio 2008 has a "Target Framework" setting in the projects, so you can use it to make applications which work on .NET 2.0, but still get all the IDE improvements and all that stuff. Also, most of the language enhancements (implicit variable declaration, extension methods and lambda expressions) in C# 3.0 are handled by the compiler rather than any runtime changes, so I can use all of those too.</p> <p> </p> <p>Explanatory note: I can't move our application development to .NET 3.0 or 3.5 as those runtimes are only available for Windows XP SP2 or later, and many of our customers still have Windows 2000 systems.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.1&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ben (BENLUMLEY)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 10:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2007 15:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.2">33280.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_1" target="_self">33280.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Why don't you move your application development to 3 or 3.5 and develop runtimes for windows 2000 yourself? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.2&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 10:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ben (BENLUMLEY) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2007 11:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.3">33280.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_2" target="_self">33280.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Because that would be a Pete Boughton thing to do. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.3&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ben (BENLUMLEY)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 11:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2007 12:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.4">33280.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_3" target="_self">33280.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>no, not quite.</p> <p> </p> <p>pete boughton would discuss it with us for a week or so, before deciding whether to do it.</p> <p> </p> <p>then he'd wonder whether to go for 3 or 3.5 for another week, based on some article he had read suggesting that there may be an obscure bug in 3.5 that makes certain things that no one ever uses run very slowly.</p> <p> </p> <p>then he'd implement it in cod(sic) fusion.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.4&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 11:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ben (BENLUMLEY) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2007 11:58"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.5">33280.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_4" target="_self">33280.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> No, I'd whip it up in Railo and AIR and have it completed before Mark finished reading the VS EULA.<br /> <br /> <br /> <small>(What is 'it' anyway?)</small> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.5&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ben (BENLUMLEY)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 11:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2007 13:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.6">33280.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_5" target="_self">33280.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Railo is CF isn't it? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.6&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 13:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ben (BENLUMLEY) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Oct 2007 08:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.7">33280.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_6" target="_self">33280.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Railo is a third-party CFML compiler. Same language, different app server. Closest comparison I can think is with SQL implementations:<br /> SQL -> Oracle/MySQL/PostgreSQL/(etc)<br /> CFML -> ColdFusion/Railo/BlueDragon/SmithProject<br /> <br /> <small>(Except SQL is defined ANSI, whilst CFML is defined by the big three taking features from each other.)</small><br /> <br /> <br /> If you really want to know more I'll go start a new thread, so Rendle doesn't shout at me for sabotaging his .NET happiness. <span class="emoticon e_smile" title=":)"><span class="e__">:)</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.7&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 15:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ben (BENLUMLEY) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Oct 2007 08:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.8">33280.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_2" target="_self">33280.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Time constraints. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.8&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ally<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 15:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2007 16:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.9">33280.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_1" target="_self">33280.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> About time. Right now I'm developing .Net 1.1 applications in 2005. It's an utter pain in the arse. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.9&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a33280_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_33280_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2007 16:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ally <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Oct 2007 19:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.10">33280.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=33280.1#a33280_9" target="_self">33280.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It still won't let you use .NET 1.1. And you really shouldn't, you know. There's absolutely no good reason for it. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=33280.10&return_msg=33280.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="33280.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="33280.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>