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I don't really have time to commit to taking over the running of it, the footy season's about to begin (I think I'm due to have three days off in August, none of them together) and I'll bugger it up somehow. Also I think last time we pretty drained teh amazon fund so there won't be much coming from that this time. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.2&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ben (BENLUMLEY)<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 09:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">3 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.3">32914.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>meep!</p> <p> </p> <p>I too do not have time to commit to this. </p> <p> </p> <p>If someone has time, I think we should look at alternative options for the hosting, given that cost.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.3&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 10:14</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Jul 2007 11:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.4">32914.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.1">32914.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>1&1?</p> <p> </p> <p>Should be able to get something decent with 1&1 for £100-200 a year.</p> <p> </p> <p>If donations are needed I'm happy to donate, but can't do so until end of September <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.4&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 10:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Jul 2007 11:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.5">32914.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.1">32914.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> As for taking over the hosting, I volunteer Jon Cooper. He seems sensible enough.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.5&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 11:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Jul 2007 11:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.6">32914.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.1">32914.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That can't be right.<br /> <br /> I can't remember the details for the EuroVPS support section to see what package we're <i>actually</i> currently on. Going by what Plesk reports this is what I believe us to have:<br /> <br /> Minimum Guaranteed RAM: 512MB<br /> Disk Space: 10GB<br /> Domains: Limited to 1.<br /> Plesk: Version 7.5<br /> <br /> None of this matches any of the VPS Plesk packages they sell that they have listed on their site. If we go for the one closest in spec to our current set up (VPS 450P) it's closer to â‚¬500 (~£340) so I'd be interested to know where they get â‚¬606 from and why.<br /> <br /> I had a quick look at 1&1's virtual hosting and even though they put me off by not listing any details about their servers, they do have a special offer which would give us 3 months free and cut the cost down to £270 for a year (Business tier). But after that it'd go up to £360 which is more than EuroVPS are asking for their VPS 450P.<br /> <br /> Hmm. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.6&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: patch<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 11:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Jul 2007 11:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.7">32914.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.2#a32914_6" target="_self">32914.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> From the invoice online:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <table class="list" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="550"> <tbody><tr> <th nowrap="nowrap"><a href="/cp/index.cgi/document/id,19701/referer,%7Ccp%7Cindex.cgi%7Cdocument%7Cid-19701%7Creferer-02.15%7Ctab-details/tab,details/sort,comment">Item</a><img src="/images/1.gif" align="absmiddle" height="16" width="13" /></th> <th align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="/cp/index.cgi/document/id,19701/referer,%7Ccp%7Cindex.cgi%7Cdocument%7Cid-19701%7Creferer-02.15%7Ctab-details/tab,details/sort,rate">Unit Price</a><img src="/images/1.gif" align="absmiddle" height="16" width="13" /></th> <th align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="/cp/index.cgi/document/id,19701/referer,%7Ccp%7Cindex.cgi%7Cdocument%7Cid-19701%7Creferer-02.15%7Ctab-details/tab,details/sort,period">Time interval</a><img src="/images/1.gif" align="absmiddle" height="16" width="13" /></th> <th align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="/cp/index.cgi/document/id,19701/referer,%7Ccp%7Cindex.cgi%7Cdocument%7Cid-19701%7Creferer-02.15%7Ctab-details/tab,details/sort,amount">Total</a><img src="/images/1.gif" align="absmiddle" height="16" width="13" /></th> </tr> <tr class="evenrowbg"> <td>Linux VPS 250P Plesk Reloaded/RHEL AS3 hosting plan subscription fee</td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">â‚¬509.49</td><td align="right">1 year(s)</td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">â‚¬509.49</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrowbg"> <td>Psa Bu As3 monthly fee</td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">â‚¬0.00</td><td align="right">1 year(s)</td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">â‚¬0.00</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrowbg"> <td>+ EU VAT 19.00 %</td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">â‚¬96.80</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrowbg"> <td>Total</td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">â‚¬606.29</td> </tr> </tbody></table><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Which seems to be about â‚¬45 per month. Maybe they've phased out the package we were on and moved us to this one?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.7&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 12:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: patch <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Jul 2007 12:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.8">32914.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.2#a32914_7" target="_self">32914.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Don't we get some kind of discount for paying for a whole year up front? <br /> <br /> Their website seems to imply that is the case (<a href="http://www.eurovps.com/vps_hosting/unix_plesk_vps_hosting_servers.asp">linky</a>), offering a price of â‚¬29.95 (not sure, but I think this includes VAT) a month if we commit to one year, although I guess that could be for new customers only.<br /> <br /> I'm confused. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.8&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Rowan<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 12:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">9 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.9">32914.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> My compsci friend from uni has always seemed quite happy with <a href="http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/hosting/linux-business/full-details/">Fasthosts</a>, though I can't vouch for them personally. And, again, they don't seem to talk about their server specs. And I'm not sure how large the Teh DB is.<br /> <br /> Quite possibly not suitable, then. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.9&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 13:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Jul 2007 13:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.10">32914.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.2#a32914_2" target="_self">32914.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Last time I checked (which was a while ago), the TradeDoubler account had ~£40 in. I'd guess it's probably up to £50-60 by now, depending on how often people buy from Dabs/Play/Game using the links. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.10&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32914_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_32914_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ben (BENLUMLEY)<span class="message_time">30 Jul 2007 14:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">11 of 47</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32914.11">32914.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>1and1 seem ok for shared hosting, but they aren't great for servers.</p> <p> </p> <p>We have 3 servers from them where i work, and they aren't anything special at all - not infrequent downtime, customer service that don't care, and changes to configuration without telling you, which breaks stuff.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32914.11&return_msg=32914.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32914.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="32914.12" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>