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href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.11">11–17</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=30720.7">Beehive Forum Project Live Forums</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="30720_7_17_10"> <a name="a30720_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 16:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">7 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7">30720.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Uh, why are people surprised at spammers targetting web forms?<br /> <br /> They've been doing it on forums and weblogs for years... </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.7&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ally<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 17:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Sep 2006 18:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.8">30720.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.6">30720.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> No, they use the actual form on the web page. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.8&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ally<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 17:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Sep 2006 21:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.9">30720.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_7" target="_self">30720.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> By and large not automated, though.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 26 Sep 2006 17:53 by ALLY</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.9&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 22:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Sep 2006 22:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.10">30720.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_7" target="_self">30720.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yes, but I was under the impression that people wrote software which would spam, say, WordPress blogs, or phpBB forums, where there's a lot of examples on the web so a lot of spamming to get done. The live forum page is just a one-off script, so somebody's written a general purpose script which can spam anything with a submit button. That's quite clever. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.10&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 22:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ally <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Sep 2006 22:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.11">30720.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_9" target="_self">30720.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">By and large not automated, though.</div><br /> <br /> Yup, of course, because all the clearly automated spam I've come across in my Internet travels was nothing more than halucinations, as are all the provably automated spams I've received on my own forum and web forms.<br /> <br /> Feel free to post any non-automated spam, and for each one I'll post a link to a forum full of blatantly automatic stuff to prove that, by and large, it <strong>is</strong> automated. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.11&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 22:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Sep 2006 07:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.12">30720.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_10" target="_self">30720.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well it's a one-off form that just happens to sport very similar fields to stuff like WordPress/etc.<br /> <br /> Notice how the 'forum name' field has the name of the 'poster', and the 'forum owner' is just some numbers.<br /> <br /> It doesn't require much code or intelligence to write something that spiders the web and posts in anything that resembles a comment form. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.12&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ally<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 22:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Sep 2006 23:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.13">30720.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_11" target="_self">30720.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I meant it was by and large not automated until recently- showing me lots of it compared to a small quantity of manually made spam wouldn't really be in any way relevant. Apparently you find my view offensive. Of the three web sites I run, it's only within the last maybe six months or so that I've seen any web form spam.</p> <p> </p> <p>Now, it isn't because of it changing position on Google or something (well, not in at least two of the cases), so something happened. Maybe I was just unlucky. Maybe you need to calm down. Who knows?</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 26 Sep 2006 22:56 by ALLY</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.13&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 23:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ally <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Sep 2006 23:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.14">30720.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_13" target="_self">30720.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well if you meant recently, it would help to actually use the word (or a synonymous one) in your post. I can't read minds across the Internet. <span class="emoticon e_confused" title=":S"><span class="e__">:S</span></span><br /> <br /> I'm not sure what part of your view you think I found offensive either. Maybe you need to calm down. <span class="emoticon e_wink" title=";)"><span class="e__">;)</span></span><br /> <br /> Certainly, recently, there have been significant increases in spamming. Five or six months ago sounds about right, and also in the past couple of months (especially e-mail-based stuff, in my experiences)<br /> Probably a/some succesful virus/trojans creating lots more zombies or something. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.14&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ally<span class="message_time">26 Sep 2006 23:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Sep 2006 23:42"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.15">30720.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_14" target="_self">30720.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">Well if you meant recently, it would help to actually use the word (or a synonymous one) in your post. </div><br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b>You</div><div class="quote">They've been doing it on forums and weblogs for years...</div><br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">By and large not automated, though.</div><br /> <br /> My post stated that as far as I was concerned they had <i>not</i> been automated "for years", so it's kind of implicit that I consider to have started recently.<br /> <br /> Irrelevant, mind. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.15&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30720_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_30720_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: JonCooper<span class="message_time">27 Sep 2006 07:31</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Sep 2006 09:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 17</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.16">30720.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30720.7#a30720_11" target="_self">30720.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I was reading, a few days ago, about "captcha" sweat shops where people are being paid a pittance to spend all day manually filling in formas etc specifically to get round the visual recognition thing</p> <p> </p> <p>they post the exact same spam so it could look automated but it's done manually</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 27 Sep 2006 07:32 by JONCOOPER</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30720.16&return_msg=30720.7" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30720.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="30720.17" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>